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Making friends with the bully

March 13th, 2008 (09:01 pm)
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The past few months (since New Years?), the nearby Methodist church has been running slogans to do with "grace". Now, as I understand it, "grace" is the Christian term for God giving you a chance to make up for your sins.

In other words, if you do something God doesn't like, you'll be tortured forever and ever, except that sometimes, if you're extra obedient afterwards, he's magnanimous enough to say, "Oh, I guess we won't turn you over to the torturers after all.". That's not grace (the quality of being gracious). That's tyranny. "Well, you know, Mr. Jones, we have the bank records to prove you hired that prostitute 10 years ago. So I'm afraid we'll have to send you to Guantánamo. Of course, if you were to do a favor for us, we might change our minds..."

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Posted by: lauradi7 (lauradi7)
Posted at: March 14th, 2008 02:28 am (UTC)

My impression is that grace is more like God saying "there's no possible way you could make up for your sins, but I'm going to forgive you anyway." You still have to believe in it for it to work, though. I could be wrong...

Posted by: Who, me? (metageek)
Posted at: March 14th, 2008 12:24 pm (UTC)
But he sets the rules

My impression is that grace is more like God saying "there's no possible way you could make up for your sins, but I'm going to forgive you anyway."

Perhaps, but he's still the one who decided that they were sins in the first place.

Posted by: Alexx Kay (alexx_kay)
Posted at: March 14th, 2008 02:47 pm (UTC)
Re: But he sets the rules

Oh, but he only set the rules that way because he *loves* us!

What's that you say? That it doesn't seem very loving to you? Well, that's where the 'ineffable' part come in, y'see. He actually knows what's good for us better than we do.

Posted by: metahacker (metahacker)
Posted at: March 14th, 2008 03:02 am (UTC)
miracle

Well, sure. Christianity and its variants are still essentially a slave religion.

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